What is your opinion on whats currently going on in the united states

What do you disagree with?

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James F

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1.Being on here, most of you should have a bit of common sense and know "White Male Privilege" doesn't really exist.

2.Along with being racist because of the color of your skin and hating whites is not racist if your white.

3.Feminist fighting for equal rights when the only right that is not equal between male and female is that male cant fight the other gender without getting in worse trouble, when "feminist" female fights a male and the male pushes her away the girl almost always over react yet that's what they are fighting for.

4.The more then two genders, even thought gender is a way to clarify what body part you have.

5. And last of all everyone helping Muslims. i am not saying all Muslims are bad, but the quaran and the hadith state that any person of other religion must be punished, even kids have to get down with there father at least till 8, Muslims are even mocking Americans yet we still let them enter. and we say that its way better to be in a Muslim country then here.

>Whats happened to our common sense?
>Please correct me if you disagree or add more to my point if you agree with anything on here
 

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1.Being on here, most of you should have a bit of common sense and know "White Male Privilege" doesn't really exist.

In 1968 LBJ started the "great Society Program" that gave economic help to unwed mothers as well as starting the "Affirmative Action program" that displaced the white males from the job market. How is that "White Male Privilege"?

2.Along with being racist because of the color of your skin and hating whites is not racist if your white.

If that were true then how did the 13 percent black population elect a black man into office? Logic folks?

3.Feminist fighting for equal rights when the only right that is not equal between male and female is that male cant fight the other gender without getting in worse trouble, when "feminist" female fights a male and the male pushes her away the girl almost always over react yet that's what they are fighting for.

There is No disparage of force if you carry a gun, so that Colt made all humans equal.

4.The more then two genders, even thought gender is a way to clarify what body part you have.

You may call yourself a doorknob but if you and a person I still will see you as what you are and NOT what you think you are...sorry!

5. And last of all everyone helping Muslims. i am not saying all Muslims are bad, but the quaran and the hadith state that any person of other religion must be punished, even kids have to get down with there father at least till 8, Muslims are even mocking Americans yet we still let them enter. and we say that its way better to be in a Muslim country then here.

This is what they bring to our country and we allow this to happen? http://www.cscmediagroupus.com/2017/01/31/isiskids/


>Whats happened to our common sense?
>Please correct me if you disagree or add more to my point if you agree with anything on here
 
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I agree. We, as a white race, are told we have privilege, but due to affirmative action, other races have priority when hiring. Many of us have no health insurance (including myself). Many of us cannot get food stamps (EBT). I tried when I was single and poor, but they wouldn't give me any. I was just by passed a full time job at work. The position was given to a hispanic man who has been there for only 2 weeks. (My boss only hires hispanics. I was hired by another person). As I sit there with missing teeth because I cannot afford it, I know that other races can march in and get free services. I don't see any privilege.

Don't get me wrong. I will NOT judge a person based on their race. But it goes both ways. Many judge ME and make assumptions. White hate and prejudice DOES exist. It's racism.

Privilege is something that is earned through hard work and dedication. It isn't something you are born with. If you study hard at medical school and become a doctor, you can enjoy the privileges that it brings. If you study hard and become a lawyer, you are rewarded. None of this is handed out to anyone. There are black and hispanic judges, doctors, lawyers, etc. who understand that hard work brings rewards.
 
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Privilege vs. Rights? A Privilege is issued by another human and a Right is bestowed upon us from our creator?
I ask for no Privilege, but I demand my God given Rights and will fight for them if need be.
Our founders understood the need for the inclusion in writing of a "Bill of Rights" in our U.S. Constitution.
If all men are created equal then why should there be affirmative action that allows the less qualified person get the job?
We have seen a growing number of problem police shootings that may be related to affirmative action hiring.
Ask yourself if you would use a black doctor to save your child's life?
Be honest and true to yourself when you answer the above question and think before you answer!
 

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Privilege vs. Rights? A Privilege is issued by another human and a Right is bestowed upon us from our creator?
I ask for no Privilege, but I demand my God given Rights and will fight for them if need be.
Our founders understood the need for the inclusion in writing of a "Bill of Rights" in our U.S. Constitution.
If all men are created equal then why should there be affirmative action that allows the less qualified person get the job?
We have seen a growing number of problem police shootings that may be related to affirmative action hiring.
Ask yourself if you would use a black doctor to save your child's life?
Be honest and true to yourself when you answer the above question and think before you answer!
Me? I have zero problems with race. One of my childrens' physicians is from India and the other is Jewish. I love them both.
They are very caring, excellent doctors. I would have no problems with a black man saving my child. But that's me. I can't speak for anyone else.
 

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My concern has to do with the old "Low Bidder" issue only and not skin color. The affirmative action program has allowed the people was a lower grade level to become doctors at the expense of the higher qualified students. The standard has been the issue of good, better, and best for a long time, and I would want my kids to receive the best doctor care and NOT the lower level of medical treatment. Why call upon a plumber qualified person to repair my kids heart valve? "Good enough for government work" is not good enough for my child.
 

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My concern has to do with the old "Low Bidder" issue only and not skin color. The affirmative action program has allowed the people was a lower grade level to become doctors at the expense of the higher qualified students. The standard has been the issue of good, better, and best for a long time, and I would want my kids to receive the best doctor care and NOT the lower level of medical treatment. Why call upon a plumber qualified person to repair my kids heart valve? "Good enough for government work" is not good enough for my child.

You make good points, but a less experienced doctor is better than NO doctor, is it not? He would still most likely have more knowledge and experience than us. :) Example, in Walking Dead Denise became the colony doctor. If I remember correctly, she was either in medical school or worked as an EMT or something along those lines. So, even though she wasn't a doctor, she was the most qualified to be one.
 
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The above report represents a wrongful death rate per "YEAR"! Also, that number represents only the reported deaths by doctors, so you know how that works? "Figures can lie and Liars can Figure". The slick talking people are the ones that run the world, so it may help to be smarter than a doorknob to read between the liars?
 

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Now on to a more pressing subject: North Korea may have NBC ("Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical") weapons and they may also have a delivery system soon. The leader of that country has always continued to make threats that he will some day have the ability to take the South and hurt the US someday. Irrational thinking people such as we see in the middle east and as is obvious with the leader Kim of North Korea should be taken as a real threat to the peace in that region of the world. History has proven to us that Hitler may have been stopped if we acted sooner. The past democratic administrations allowed this problem to happen because they knew it would cause a political loss for them. If Trump were to do nothing he will be re-elected, but during that do nothing time North Korea may gain the upper hand with the ability to strike with nuclear missiles on our shores.
With the first to carrier groups headed towards Korea the Russians have entered the fray by sending one of their carrier groups to dog ours. They have a new electronics blocking weapon system that could ground our aircraft, so we are now sending two more carrier groups to follow within two or three weeks for a total of four. We should be able to gain a window of opportunity to strike North Korea because we can get more assets there quicker then Russia. I would plan for trouble in about two to six weeks. This is not a drill folks! In fact I believe we are closer to a nuclear event today then we were back when JFK faced off with Cuba. Remember to pray!
 
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This poll is very telling of the community here.

I couldn't agree with any of your statements. The wording you used doesn't take into account any of the complexities of the topics you mentioned. Racism is real even if you don't participate. Gender inequality isn't a black and white kinda deal. Gender and sexuality are hard topics to understand. And as for your Muslim comments... yes there are cultural differences that may seem hard to overcome, but it simply cannot be true that all Muslim people are morally bad.

How about looking for the similarities we have with each other, i.e. how our governments are slowly leading us to ruin.
 

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This poll is very telling of the community here.

I couldn't agree with any of your statements. The wording you used doesn't take into account any of the complexities of the topics you mentioned. Racism is real even if you don't participate. Gender inequality isn't a black and white kinda deal. Gender and sexuality are hard topics to understand. And as for your Muslim comments... yes there are cultural differences that may seem hard to overcome, but it simply cannot be true that all Muslim people are morally bad.

How about looking for the similarities we have with each other, i.e. how our governments are slowly leading us to ruin.
How is this poll very telling of the community here ?

I see that you are using the term, you, in your reply. However, it wasn't specified as to who the you is being addressed, so am assuming everyone ???

I would hope you're not referring to the entire membership of the site. IF that is so, there are only 3 participants in this particular thread before your post. Three people are hardly "the community " here. And this is a discussion site, where a variety of people with a variety of perspectives come to discuss a variety of issues.

And it is good for people that have different perspectives, to work towards creating a balance ( understanding ) by speaking up and present their viewpoints for discussion so that the participating members can work together and either respectfully agree to disagree, or even better, find the similarities that creates a positive ( perhaps learning ) experience for the other participants.
 

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This poll is very telling of the community here.

I couldn't agree with any of your statements. The wording you used doesn't take into account any of the complexities of the topics you mentioned. Racism is real even if you don't participate. Gender inequality isn't a black and white kinda deal. Gender and sexuality are hard topics to understand. And as for your Muslim comments... yes there are cultural differences that may seem hard to overcome, but it simply cannot be true that all Muslim people are morally bad.

How about looking for the similarities we have with each other, i.e. how our governments are slowly leading us to ruin.
I didn't say racism isn't real, i'm pointing out that people are currently accusing the wrong people of it.
Gender isn't a hard topic to really understand, you are either male or female.
And hell you can even be both, but everyone thinking their are 50+ genders is insane.
Not all Muslims are bad, i agree with you.
But when and if you run into a nice Muslim, they are not truly Muslim. they are not following the Quran.
 

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Do real Christians follow the Bible to the word? Or Catholics? Religion again is not cut and dry. It's how we interpret the stories.

These topics are basically tripping up our culture and distracting us from the real problems. We are divided, and we could fall.

I may have jumped the gun on my community comment. Long day, plus reading percentages instead of true numbers equals an apology from me.

Personally I believe that that a person's spirituality, sexuality and heritage have no bearing on the morality of a person, and to define larges groups of people with sweeping labels does us all a disfavour.

And it is good for people that have different perspectives, to work towards creating a balance ( understanding ) by speaking up and present their viewpoints for discussion so that the participating members can work together and either respectfully agree to disagree, or even better, find the similarities that creates a positive ( perhaps learning ) experience for the other participants.
I couldn't agree more. The only thing I might add though is that sometimes it comes down to how informed a person is. If I hadn't gained the experience that I have, my view would not be the same. Travel and visiting other cultures dispels the cultural hangups you gain from your own.
 
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walt

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you weren't blocked. I simply put all of your posts as you posted them into one post.
OK, Thanks! I believe in the oath I took many times to Preserve, Protect and Defend the US Constitution against all enemies both foreign and DOMESTIC! I also believe in the "Ten Commandments" as given to us from above as being representative of human rights and responsibilities. All efforts to undermined those laws will be met with my opposition. A forum such as this needs to be a place for God fearing free thinking people to share information as a way to gain insight and help each other thrive in life.
 

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I am an atheist. However, I will agree that the ten commandments are a solid moral foundation for anyone to use for guidance.

How do you feel about religious leaders that maintain the idea that homosexuality is wrong, or that use their position to divide people rather than accepting and embracing differences?
 
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I know a lot of people across a wide spectrum of beliefs. The only time I take issue is when anyone claims that any sort of supernatural being tells them to kill people for that god. Figure a god can do that him/her self. Not really the thread for a ( in depth ) religious / theological discussion , but would be happy to do so in the appropriate section. Feel I know a little bit about Scriptures and other manuscripts.

Have to be careful with biblical verses, not all the words necessarily mean what they seem to mean on the surface. The 10 commandments are fairly straight forward, however, worshipping an idol, I think, means a bit more than one might think when that commandment is read.

Jesus narrowed the 10 commandments down to two commandments.

" Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. " Matthew 22 : 37 - 40 (KJV)

Related to the happenings of today in the country (and the world); I think of the allegory of Adam and Eve playing out over and over again. Adam and Eve denied their own temptations and refused to accept responsibilty for their own actions. Which is still going on, different characters - so to speak - but the same dynamics.

I don't know if all the leaders within some of the different faiths are intent on dividing people, but may take a particular stance on a variety of issues and lifestyles . Doesn't necessarily mean that those leaders are not accepting of people, but, may not embrace the same ideaology of everyone.
 

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Side note; Do Jojoba's Witnesses claim to accept and use any Bible version in the states?

Your comment reminded me that this was about the state of America... (<is that a pun?)

America is in a hard place. There are many problems. But your fighters! You'll stand tall, proud of your convictions and push back against those intent on corroding your basic rights. My country could do with some fighting spirit.

Disclaimer: I do not condone violence unless to defend. I am referring to emotional or spiritual fighting I.e. debate. Put the safety on. Our people should talk.
 

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Side note; Do Jojoba's Witnesses claim to accept and use any Bible version in the states?
Yes, the Jehovah Witnesses use a version they entitled, " New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures ". An issue is that the manucripts being used for bibles, don't translate to english - exactly. So...not that hard to churn out different versions of bibles. Now, just because that occurs, doesn't take away what is contained in the manuscripts. Just takes more time to study.

Your comment reminded me that this was about the state of America... (<is that a pun?)

America is in a hard place. There are many problems. But your fighters! You'll stand tall, proud of your convictions and push back against those intent on corroding your basic rights. My country could do with some fighting spirit.

Disclaimer: I do not condone violence unless to defend. I am referring to emotional or spiritual fighting I.e. debate. Put the safety on. Our people should talk.
America is in a hard place. As is the rest of the world. Is frustrating that the Earth is such a unique place, and we treat it like dirt ( < is that a pun ?) Would be nice if everyone valued what is possible, but possibilites aren't necessarily reality. What does a civilized society do with people that are violent? What does a civilized society do if one group is exterminating another group of people?

I don't know, seems to me that what is missing are logic and reason in a lot of issues.
 
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It starts with education. We are not giving ourselves the tools to understand these complex issues, and risk being the next civilisation to crumble under its own weight.
Education seems to be somewhat of an umbrella term. Would you say common sense , or healthy skepticism are part of education ? Or even experience ?

To bring in some possible controversy into the mix here with a current event, is the firing of James Comey. I am seeing and hearing people going bonkers about how Mr. Comey was investigating Donald Trump. How my thinking plays this out is that I don't believe Mr. Comey is pounding the pavement, knocking on doors, waving around his badge, and personally doing an investigation. I believe that there are agents assigned to an investigation who are doing the work. Therfore, just because Comey was fired, does not mean those agents packed up all their stuff, put whatever they collected into storage and are like, "woo hoo, we're out'a here" and went on an extended vacation. Now, if it comes to light that the new director issues an order that any and all investigations were to be halted --- then maybe I would start squawking too. Granted, the way Comey got fired was not the smoothest move, but, certainly does not halt any on-going investigations. My opinion only - but - the people screaming about it, are being illogical and unreasonable.

On a more humorous side, I have a friend that is an experienced and skilled hunter. Sitting around one night, drinking some beer with a group of folks, he says as a matter of factly, that if and when you hunt for wild Turkeys, always aim behind em. Because the way wild Turkeys are physically structured, they can only fly backwards.

I've never really seen a wild Turkey fly, have never been told how a wild Turkey can fly, and know that they are large and cumbersome creatures.

That they can only fly backwards, from the inflection and expression of my friend, you'd believe he was serious and telling the truth. The way he said it was with enough authority to cause me to do some research to find out if wild Turkeys can only fly backwards. What I find interesting about this event, is that I would bet money that some of the people that heard him say that, never did any research themselves and on "good authority" are passing it around if and when hunting wild Turkeys, always aim behind em, because wild Turkeys can only fly backwards.

I agree that education may play an important role in both instances, however, I would also say that there are other factors involved that are not necessarily education.

Education may be a good start, but what other important factors ( tools ? ) would you say would be involved with reaching a reasonable decision / conclusion ?

Why is it that some people would question the statement that wild Turkeys can only fly backwards, and other people accept it as fact without question ?
 
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walt

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1.Being on here, most of you should have a bit of common sense and know "White Male Privilege" doesn't really exist.
Cronyism, Nepotism, and Narcissism all play a part in the problems of “Privilege” in most walks of life and it may be that way with non whites as well?

2.Along with being racist because of the color of your skin and hating whites is not racist if your white.
I look at the fact as spelled out by people such as Tommy Sotomayor when he reports them. 13.3 percent commit more then half the murders.

3.Feminist fighting for equal rights when the only right that is not equal between male and female is that male cant fight the other gender without getting in worse trouble, when "feminist" female fights a male and the male pushes her away the girl almost always over react yet that's what they are fighting for.
I don’t have a dog in that fight as I respect them as equal in many ways but not all. Mothers, sisters, wives and daughters are all my kin folk and are respected by me.

4.The more then two genders, even thought gender is a way to clarify what body part you have.
I know that there are a few people born with non or both type bodies and therefore it may serve to deal with that issue as well.

5. And last of all everyone helping Muslims. i am not saying all Muslims are bad, but the Quran and the hadith state that any person of other religion must be punished, even kids have to get down with there father at least till 8.
Muslims are even mocking Americans yet we still let them enter. and we say that its way better to be in a Muslim country then here.
This is an easy one to explain: All Muslims need to leave this country at once! Their culture is not compatible with our US Constitutional way of life.
 
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