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Hmmm I would ask?

John...could you teach me what you know about growing a healthy garden?

What the heck happened to the departure video?

Can we just spend an afternoon together? I have a lot of questions.

Can I just touch your arm to see if you are vibrating different from me?
1-I can't teach you stuff about gardens because i dont have one,
2-second question i dont know what your talking about,
3-spending an afternoon with you is not possible unfortunally beucase sharing things with you just be with you or any other people can change all the universe and i don't want to change things by simple actions that can be avoid, sorry.
4-Probably because we have different ages.
 
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if i could talk to titor, and he was real, id have a very specific question. could you take me back to september 28th 1999 so i could save my mother from being murdered?

if he was real, thats what i would ask him, nothing more. thats my whole reason for ever coming to this site.
First I'm very really, second it would change the universe just for saving her or just meet you, I'm really sorry
 

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well, considering you are "really," and you arent near as eloquent as the original titor, that leaves me two conclusions: 1 time travel causes mental issues, or 2 you arent titor. but im not getting into that. you asked me why? because ive decided to let it go. its something i cant change (i hate the word cant. cant never could do anything.)
 
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well, considering you are "really," and you arent near as eloquent as the original titor, that leaves me two conclusions: 1 time travel causes mental issues, or 2 you arent titor. but im not getting into that. you asked me why? because ive decided to let it go. its something i cant change (i hate the word cant. cant never could do anything.)
If you dont believe that im the Person you call John Titor you dont need to explain and My real name is not john Titor its confidential because if people know it would change the universe John Titor is just "NickName" and i ask why to Cosmo.
 

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ive got nothing better to do, so how 'bout you tell me about how the singularities dilate in your machine?
 

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Why? You dont believe that im real?
No, I believe you have problems with reading comprehension - The thread you started posting in clearly said that thread was for questions only. Titor wasn't in Portgual like you are, or Italy like this other dude is. He also had no problems speaking English and didn't come across as a teenager or 20-something bored kid looking for attention.

Choose your audience and observe your surroundings before you jump in and start getting silly. There's at least two other folks from your same neck of the woods doing this already.

I'm a little annoyed with the game so if this all ends up being the same person, all of south-west Europe is in for a multi-country ban ;) Make this worth it.
 
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No, I believe you have problems with reading comprehension - The thread you started posting in clearly said that thread was for questions only. Titor wasn't in Portgual like you are, or Italy like this other dude is. He also had no problems speaking English and didn't come across as a teenager or 20-something bored kid looking for attention.

Choose your audience and observe your surroundings before you jump in and start getting silly. There's at least two other folks from your same neck of the woods doing this already.

I'm a little annoyed with the game so if this all ends up being the same person, all of south-west Europe is in for a multi-country ban ;) Make this worth it.
I'm sorry if i annoyed you i will share my history to other place please don't think that im not John Titor im in Europe to avoid the 3 world war i already said it so i will not waste your time... GoodBye

Time Travelling is possible and a time machine it's very different of what people think...
 

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1-I can't teach you stuff about gardens because i dont have one,
2-second question i dont know what your talking about,
3-spending an afternoon with you is not possible unfortunally beucase sharing things with you just be with you or any other people can change all the universe and i don't want to change things by simple actions that can be avoid, sorry.
4-Probably because we have different ages.
I'm sorry, but Titor was college educated. Your spelling does not represent such education.

You are not John Titor.
 
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Another TTO/Titor who forgot how to speak/write English two weeks (his perspective) after his original posts here?

Will John Titor #354 [lease report to the boarding area for 2036. Paging John Titor #354.
 

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I'm sorry if i annoyed you i will share my history to other place please don't think that im not John Titor im in Europe to avoid the 3 world war i already said it so i will not waste your time... GoodBye

Time Travelling is possible and a time machine it's very different of what people think...
I'm hearing this quote in Borat's voice in my mind.
 
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I'm sorry if i annoyed you i will share my history to other place please don't think that im not John Titor im in Europe to avoid the 3 world war i already said it so i will not waste your time... GoodBye

Time Travelling is possible and a time machine it's very different of what people think...
Hi, avoid a war if u were from another parallel you could stop!
 

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John Tritor? Russia threatens to nuke U.S. u STOP a computer virus but not a catastrophe like such. What use are you, United States gets nuked, divided into five states from fifty and thats ok. But, a virus that threatens to wipe out the world u are after. How so are we the hated generation! How so are we the stupid, non helpful era. You with the power to travel through space and time, you can stop the holocaust, stop the ww2. You say you can't but you can, I k kW I would! Kill Hitler, that stops the holocaust. Changing history can change the future for better not worse. People learn to care for one another truely by showing sacrifice!/compassion, love, trust and humility!
 

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Your no good to this era if your not going to save this era! Useless! At least make a difference! Save billions of lives!
 

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First I'm very really, second it would change the universe just for saving her or just meet you, I'm really sorry
Is useless! Nonman would sit back n watch the devistayion of billions! At least without a good try to stop it, you go back further into the future and stop it! Stop war, famine, disease! I'd die to have that cja ce!
 

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I'll do it if u can't, I'd die to do so!
Hi Lena,

Things are not that simple. I agree with you and wish that they were. Imagine that you and I go for a ride in a magic car that can take us to any time or place we want to go, but it's a 1 way trip, and when we arrive, nobody knows us and we are unfamiliar with the people/ circumstances we encounter. It's a tainted magic, like the curse of the monkey's paw. There is no changing the past, only the future, and that requires a life's work.
 

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Hi Lena,

Things are not that simple. I agree with you and wish that they were. Imagine that you and I go for a ride in a magic car that can take us to any time or place we want to go, but it's a 1 way trip, and when we arrive, nobody knows us and we are unfamiliar with the people/ circumstances we encounter. It's a tainted magic, like the curse of the monkey's paw. There is no changing the past, only the future, and that requires a life's work.
We don't have to imagine a magical car to do this. This scenario is called time dilation. It is from Special Relativity, quite real and we have the technology to do it today. We can't do it in a practical or affordable way but it absolutely can be done. Build a huge spaceship that can carry a shitload of fuel, accelerate for a year at 1g and you'll be very near the speed of light. The gamma factor will be very significant.

Imagine a magic car....fracking-a. And this is a wannabe time traveler.
 

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United States gets nuked, divided into five states from fifty and thats ok.
You misinterpreted that Titor post. He didn't say that the state were abolished he said, under the new constitution, the country was divided into five regions each with its own president. The states were inside the regions. Think of them as a Soviet oblasti. The Russians were Titor's friends so for Boomer to toss in a bit of Russian geopolitical theory is par.

And Lena, don't get too upset over this. It's fiction. None of it was true, none of his "predictions" have played out. It was intended as online entertainment. There was the possibility of a movie deal, graphical novels, The Book, a radio program, t-shirts, coffee mugs... The attorney, Larry Haber, is a movie deal maker. He is in private practice now but his two main corporate gigs were with Disney and Universal Studios where he was one of the top people in their legal departments. Got it?
 

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We don't have to imagine a magical car to do this. This scenario is called time dilation. It is from Special Relativity, quite real and we have the technology to do it today. We can't do it in a practical or affordable way but it absolutely can be done. Build a huge spaceship that can carry a shitload of fuel, accelerate for a year at 1g and you'll be very near the speed of light. The gamma factor will be very significant....
Darby, I'm curious. Judas described traveling to a very distant future Earth where one would be unknown and would encounter only unfamiliar persons and surroundings. While time dilation is certainly very real and had to be accounted for practically with orbiting satellites and such, I find it difficult to imagine our current technologies affording us the capacity to return to an Earth in the distant future, practicality and affordability notwithstanding. Between problems of fuel, life support systems, and the whole slowing down from near-light-speed/ re-entry process, I'm just having a hard time imagining it working at this stage of humanity's collective capability.
 

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Darby, I'm curious. Judas described traveling to a very distant future Earth where one would be unknown and would encounter only unfamiliar persons and surroundings. While time dilation is certainly very real and had to be accounted for practically with orbiting satellites and such, I find it difficult to imagine our current technologies affording us the capacity to return to an Earth in the distant future, practicality and affordability notwithstanding. Between problems of fuel, life support systems, and the whole slowing down from near-light-speed/ re-entry process, I'm just having a hard time imagining it working at this stage of humanity's collective capability.
Diz,

The gist of my post is that time travel to the future is mostly an engineering problem and not a theoretical physics problem. There's no doubt about the underlying science. It can be done, at least in principle, with present day technology. You just need a huge ship where 99% of its many million tons of mass is fuel.

Still weird that no real entertainment has been created around this story. Especially with Haber's contacts.
The problem is likely that there's really no story to tell - at least not based on the posts. All in all there's not all that much difference between TTO/Titor's story and any other online time travel story. Boomer was just a better writer than most wannabe time travelers (which isn't saying much because the vast majority of time travel wannabes are virtually illiterate). Without expanding the story far beyond the posts a movie based on the Titor Saga plays out as a typical sci-fi B-movie shot in Romania. Different parts of Group Titor have made creative attempts and they've all been pretty awful - The Book, The Radio Show, The Graphic Novel. Larry Haber is the deal maker. He's a suit, not creative talent. He can't make chicken soup out of chicken shit, if you will.
 
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Darby, I'm curious. Judas described traveling to a very distant future Earth where one would be unknown and would encounter only unfamiliar persons and surroundings. While time dilation is certainly very real and had to be accounted for practically with orbiting satellites and such, I find it difficult to imagine our current technologies affording us the capacity to return to an Earth in the distant future, practicality and affordability notwithstanding. Between problems of fuel, life support systems, and the whole slowing down from near-light-speed/ re-entry process, I'm just having a hard time imagining it working at this stage of humanity's collective capability.
Sorry for the lack of explanation. My understanding of John's machine is that it jumps between parallel dimensions by using the bending of spacetime caused by overlapping gravitational fields. Some believe that is the heart of the funding behind the construction of the CERN LHC. If such technology is possible, then it would solve the majority of our engineering problems with space travel and vindicate Bob Lazaar circa 1989.
 

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Sorry for the lack of explanation. My understanding of John's machine is that it jumps between parallel dimensions by using the bending of spacetime caused by overlapping gravitational fields. Some believe that is the heart of the funding behind the construction of the CERN LHC. If such technology is possible, then it would solve the majority of our engineering problems with space travel and vindicate Bob Lazaar circa 1989.
I'm sure that "some" believe that. "Some" also believe that the moon is mostly made from blue cheese. In neither case do "some's" beliefs make it fact.

There are facts that are available. We do have a reasonably well defined idea about what effect 500 lbs of mass has on an object at a distance of one meter. That's the entire mass of Titor's Gadget as stated by Titor. That's also about the distance from the gadget the magic wand laser is in Titor's photos. Now it doesn't make a whit of difference if the 500 lbs is uncompressed or compressed into a black hole. One meter from the center of mass the laser will be effected equally by both objects. 500 lbs of mass won't bend a laser 90 degrees - ever - never - from a distance of one meter.

And so Titor's Physics is DOA as given by his own post and photo. Unless, of course, he used magic or otherwise changed the laws of physics. He never mentioned magic so I'm going with the actual law of physics.

You don't have an understanding of John's machine because there was no John's machine. The only thing that it jumps between is the two versions of The Book.

<Jumps between parallel dimensions...overlapping gravitational fields...Bob Lazar vindicated> *Head Slap* One PB&J on HS diploma toasted well. Make that to go. Order up!
 
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I'm sure that "some" believe that. "Some" also believe that the moon is mostly made from blue cheese. In neither case do "some's" beliefs make it fact.

There are facts that are available. We do have a reasonably well defined idea about what effect 500 lbs of mass has on an object at a distance of one meter. That's the entire mass of Titor's Gadget as stated by Titor. That's also about the distance from the gadget the magic wand laser is in Titor's photos. Noe it doesn't make a whit of difference of the 500 lbs is uncompressed or compressed into a black hole. One meter from the center of mass the laser will be effected equally by both objects. 500 lbs of mass won't bend a laser 90 degrees - ever - never - from a distance of one meter.

And so Titor's Physics is DOA as given by his own post and photo. Unless, of course, he used magic or otherwise changed the laws of physics. He never mentioned magic so I'm going with the actual law of physics.

You don't have an understanding of John's machine because there was no John's machine. The only thing that it jumps between is the two versions of The Book.

<Jumps between parallel dimensions...overlapping gravitational fields...Bob Lazar vindicated> *Head Slap* One PB&J on HS diploma toasted well. Make that to go. Order up!
Ever consider the probability that modern assumptions regarding mass and gravity are wrong?
 

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Ever consider the probability that modern assumptions regarding mass and gravity are wrong?
Absolutely. yes. In fact we know that our notions of gravity are incomplete and therefore to some degree wrong. But...

in the weak field limit we know that our ideas about gravity are valid to a very high degree of accuracy. In the case of a 500 lb mass, compressed into a black hole or uncompressed, at a distance of 1 meter from the center of mass we are most definitely dealing with the weak field domain. No bending of lasers 90 degrees of arc will occur. Never. We know that to be the case because we can put a 500 lb mass out there and observe a laser passed near it. We know that a photon passing very near the surface of the sun (so called "grazing incidence") will have its path curved by 1.75 seconds of arc. Not degrees, not minutes but seconds of arc. One second of arc is 1/1,296,000th of a circle. A tad short of 90 degrees. Last I checked the sun's surface gravitational field (28g) was a touch stronger than that of a 500 lb mass. It's still well within the weak field limit but a hell of a lot stronger than a 500 lb mass.

This is fact, Boomer, the author of the Titor Saga, said that Titor's gadget relied on General Relativity. He even posted one equation derived from General Relativity. He even went so far as to say that the math and science he relied upon was mostly completed in the 1970's. Don't think so? Go back and read his posts.

General Relativity is the basis for time travel. The above referenced 1.75 degrees of arc is both Einstein's theorized deflection of a photon at grazing incidence to the sun and the measured deflection of photons at grazing incidence in independent experiments validating General Relativity shortly after WWI.
 
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Absolutely. yes. In fact we know that our notions of gravity are incomplete and therefore to some degree wrong. But...

in the weak field limit we know that our ideas about gravity are valid to a very high degree of accuracy. In the case of a 500 lb mass, compressed into a black hole or uncompressed, at a distance of 1 meter from the center of mass we are most definitely dealing with the weak field domain. No bending of lasers 90 degrees of arc will occur. Never. We know that to be the case because we can put a 500 lb mass out there and observe a laser passed near it. We know that a photon passing very near the surface of the sun (so called "grazing incidence") will have its path curved by 1.75 seconds of arc. Not degrees, not minutes but seconds of arc. One second of arc is 1/1,296,000th of a circle. A tad short of 90 degrees. Last I checked the sun's surface gravitational field (28g) was a touch stronger than that of a 500 lb mass. It's still well within the weak field limit but a hell of a lot stronger than a 500 lb mass.

This is fact, Boomer, the author of the Titor Saga, said that Titor's gadget relied on General Relativity. He even posted one equation derived from General Relativity. He even went so far as to say that the math and science he relied upon was mostly completed in the 1970's. Don't think so? Go back and read his posts.

General Relativity is the basis for time travel. The above referenced 1.75 degrees of arc is both Einstein's theorized deflection of a photon at grazing incidence to the sun and the measured deflection of photons at grazing incidence in independent experiments validating General Relativity shortly after WWI.
What size mass would be needed to generate a field of 2Gs in excess of the Earths gravitational field?
 

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What size mass would be needed to generate a field of 2Gs in excess of the Earths gravitational field?
You can figure out the answer for yourself. All you need to do is supply the distance between the center of mass of the two masses and rearrange the equation to solve for m_2. I do my own math. Your question; you solve your own equation(s):

Newton's Law of Gravitation (perfectly useable in the weak field limit)

F(g) = G (m_1 * m_2)/d^2 where

F(g)=2g=19.82 m/sec^2
G=6.673 x 10-11 N m^2/kg^2 (Universal Gravitational Constant)
m_1=5.97*10^24 kg (Earth mass)
m_2=X (Mass of dependent variable)
d=Distance between centers of mass
 
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You can figure out the answer for yourself. All you need to do is supply the distance between the center of mass of the two masses and rearrange the equation to solve for m_2. I do my own math. Your question; you solve your own equation(s):

Newton's Law of Gravitation (perfectly useable in the weak field limit)

F(g) = G (m_1 * m_2)/d^2 where

F(g)=2g=19.82 m/sec^2
G=6.673 x 10-11 N m^2/kg^2 (Universal Gravitational Constant)
m_1=5.97*10^24 kg (Earth mass)
m_2=X (Mass of dependent variable)
d=Distance between centers of mass
Please accept my apology for this dumb question, but, how do we know that a weak field limit equation is applicable for measuring electron injection results for the rotation of a Kerr type micro singularity?
 

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You can figure out the answer for yourself. All you need to do is supply the distance between the center of mass of the two masses and rearrange the equation to solve for m_2. I do my own math. Your question; you solve your own equation(s):

Newton's Law of Gravitation (perfectly useable in the weak field limit)

F(g) = G (m_1 * m_2)/d^2 where

F(g)=2g=19.82 m/sec^2
G=6.673 x 10-11 N m^2/kg^2 (Universal Gravitational Constant)
m_1=5.97*10^24 kg (Earth mass)
m_2=X (Mass of dependent variable)
d=Distance between centers of mass


Well, that's one way to get my brain to shut down - add letters to math. The bane of my existence since middle school, and god forbid I ever get sent back in time to relive that.

Could you simplify this for us non-math types? I'm fairly good with metaphors, if you've got one.
 

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Please accept my apology for this dumb question, but, how do we know that a weak field limit equation is applicable for measuring electron injection results for the rotation of a Kerr type micro singularity?
You don't because that is not the weak gravitational field. That's electrodynamics. Try this experiment: take two magnets and orient them with like poles facing each other. Now try your best to move them together so they touch. It will be a bit of a struggle.

Next, spin up a black hole with a mass of 100 kg (about 225 lbs) and an event horizon many orders of magnitude smaller than a proton by injecting some electrons. You now have a net negative charge. Now do your best to inject another electron, which is negatively charged, into the negatively charged black hole. It's a no go. Why do you think that we inject neutrons into Uranium-235 nuclei in order to initiate fission instead of injecting protons? The Coulomb Force prevents the positively charged proton from entering the positively charged nucleus just as it prevents the electron from entering the black hole.

You did read Dr. Brown's rather lengthy response to this very question, yes? Just so we're clear, that was Dr. Robert G Brown, PhD, Duke University Department of Physics. He's a professor of mathematical physics at Duke. I contacted Dr. Brown, asked him to comment of the Titor Saga and pointed it out himself (along with about thirty other fallacious statements in the saga). This isn't advanced physics, questionable physics or even "just a tiny bit disputed" physics. The Coulomb Force (aka opposite charges/poles attract, likes repel) is basic, fundamental, high school level physics. Where do you imagine that an atomic bomb gets the vast majority of its fission energy? Its the Coulomb Force. When the newly captured neutron helps the nucleus overcome the strong force and the nucleus fractures, the fragments, repelled by the Coulomb Force, fly away at several thousand kilometers per second. They collide, release tremendous heat...create a fireball. This is the binding energy of the nucleus. It took a supernova, not the 12v DC battery on a Corvette, to bind the nuclei together.

You don't "spin up" a black hole by injecting electrons. That bit of "science" proffer by Boomer was so bad that it wasn't just incorrect it wasn't even wrong.
 
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You don't because that is not the weak gravitational field. That's electrodynamics. Try this experiment: take two magnets and orient them with like poles facing each other. Now try your best to move them together so they touch. It will be a bit of a struggle.

Next, spin up a black hole with a mass of 100 kg (about 225 lbs) and an event horizon many orders of magnitude smaller than a proton by injecting some electrons. You now have a net negative charge. Now do your best to inject another electron, which is negatively charged, into the negatively charged black hole. It's a no go. Why do you think that we inject neutrons into Uranium-235 nuclei in order to initiate fission instead of injecting protons? The Coulomb Force prevents the positively charged proton from entering the positively charged nucleus just as it prevents the electron from entering the black hole.

You did read Dr. Brown's rather lengthy response to this very question, yes? Just so we're clear, that was Dr. Robert G Brown, PhD, Duke University Department of Physics. He's a professor of mathematical physics at Duke. I contacted Dr. Brown, asked him to comment of the Titor Saga and pointed it out himself (along with about thirty other fallacious statements in the saga). This isn't advanced physics, questionable physics or even "just a tiny bit disputed" physics. The Coulomb Force (aka opposite charges/poles attract, likes repel) is basic, fundamental, high school level physics. Where do you imagine that an atomic bomb gets the vast majority of its fission energy? Its the Coulomb Force. When the newly captured neutron helps the nucleus overcome the strong force and the nucleus fractures, the fragments, repelled by the Coulomb Force, fly away at several thousand kilometers per second. They collide, release tremendous heat...create a fireball. This is the binding energy of the nucleus. It took a supernova, not the 12v DC battery on a Corvette, to bind the nuclei together.

You don't "spin up" a black hole by injecting electrons. That bit of "science" proffer by Boomer was so bad that it wasn't just incorrect it wasn't even wrong.
Wouldn't a negatively charged singularity function as a monopole? I would suspect that your correct in stating that the singularity will reject an incoming stream of electrons. Would such magnetic rejection cause the singularity to spool up and rotate? I've attached a video that delves into magnetic motors built upon the principle of same polarity rejection:
 
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I suppose it is true that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery… But, there can be only one ME, albeit, on this timeline.
 

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A John Titor who is native to this world line, perhaps. Unfortunately, that John Titor died in New Jersey in the year 1914… Or at least, that’s the only official record I could gather on the internet so far.