The Death of John Titor.

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Three days ago John Titor died. In his final words he asked that the "Time Travel Institue" from the year 2036 (2000-2001 your time) be notified of his death and told this. The Unix problem had been fixed and that his mission was a total success. John also asked that you be told that he would need someone who would follow an order till he or she died to seek him out. In this world John is only 6 currently. I cannot disclose where exactly he lives but if you find out, when the wars come very soon you will have a place of safe being. Let this be known to all.

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Why haven't I heard about TTI's endeavor to create a computer that can "think" like a human brain?

The last I recall hearing about this, an "army" of individuals were working on inputting human responses to otherwise klunky computer understanding of inputs and responses.

The position at the time that I heard about this, was a question as to whether such a computer could attain consiousness and atonomy.

The Appropriateness of Chance is Astounding
Persephone

"There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs available to those who can remove one of truth's protective layers" by Neil Armstrong
 
Mar 21, 2004
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His funeral will not be a secret. It is being held in our own timeline in the area known as "The Everglades" in your current time. If you can get to the timeline you are more then welcome to come. The coordinates are 25/22/13 N (Latitude) 81/02/46 W (Longitude) In what is now known as Graveyard Creek. It will be held in 4 days at 5:30 p.m. followed by a small service afterwords. Please join us anyone who can time travel. If you can't keep the date saved untill then.
 
Mar 21, 2004
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I was one of Johns friends in the military. I was instructed to follow out one of his wishes that this forums be notified of his death. I was chosen because John was a friend not for any other reasons.
 

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Most importantly, why don't you tell us since you're still alive why we should believe that John Titor was not a hoax and why John Titor never mentioned 9/11. That event in history is too important to neglect when you go back this far in time (assuming you did). (Sorry if this argiment may have been presented already and I don't mean to come across as offensive but I'm in search of the truth and I put this website on John Titor up for discussion on a few forums to get other people's opinion) I have to admit that time travel is a very interesting topic to me but I want to see if this whole John Titor speculation is either true or some average Joe going on a power trip.(again, no offence intended)
 

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why did you come now? why didn't you come years ago? like right after the titor stories started? why is john being burried in the everglades?
 

Keven

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why did you come now? why didn't you come years ago? like right after the titor stories started? why is john being burried in the everglades?
 
Mar 21, 2004
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Warrior: John has already answered all these questions already.

frequency: John did not mention this because on our timeline it never happened. Are we suppossed to know everything since we are from the future? The weather in any part of the world at any time? We are not superhumans just from the future.

Keven: I came now because it was Johns death wish to have this forum notified. I didnt come years ago because he only died 4 days ago. John is being buried there because in my own timeline that is where the national military cemetary is currently located.

Drak: I came through a timemachine of course.
 

Drak

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No, I mean JT said it was impossible for him to return to this exact worldline (divergence), how did you do it?
 
Mar 21, 2004
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Recent developements have allowed time machines to choose a specific timelines and time travel there. John specified this wordline and this is where I was sent.
 

Drak

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Ok

I didnt come years ago because he only died 4 days ago.
But you have a time machine, you could have came back to our 2001 after he left and told us this. He died 4 days ago in 2036. Kevens question was why didn't you come back to OUR 2001 instead of our 2004?
 

frequency

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ok, the 9/11 counter-argument is plausible.
now, how about my other question?

How do we know you or John Titor is not all part of an elaborate hoax or some guy goin on a power trip by stirring up things?
 
Mar 21, 2004
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Drak: Would you have believed me anymore if the day after John died I came to the day after he left and said John died 3 years ago? I wouldn't have believe myself then.

frequency: John tried to prove to you he was what he said he would. He had pictures of his time travel vehicle, the user manual, and told you everything that you asked him to tell you to the best of his ability. Believing him and me is a personall desicion.
 

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Gee, I'm even tempted to go out to the everglades myself, what a desolate place to be buried... I was out there not 3 months ago. :)

As I see it, there are 2 explinations; 1) You're the proclaimed JT and want an end to what you've created, which you would know can't come, so lets rule that out. 2) You're just another 'wannabe' time traveller, knowing no one will go out there. It's in the middle of nowhere man. There's one main road, and thats a highway... houses are pretty cheap though.

The only way I would believe that anyone (let alone the infamous JT) was buried would be if someone I know and/or trust confirmed that they had been there themselves and saw it, which won't happen... and if it does, then thatstill doesn't prove that's him.

If he's dead, then I guess someone, maybe you, wouldn't mind posting a picture of his drivers lisence or something that would allow me to validate his existence? I got an Uncle who's a cop and a real close friend who's a judge, I'm sure they wouldn't mind running up the numbers. Then, I would only believe that such a person named JT existed... of course, I would then know where his 'child' self lived... and a DNA test would easily be done, to see if the body and the kid had exact DNA matches... that last part with DNA won't happen, but it would still be a surefire way to prove it wrong.

Yeah, post some form of ID and i'll check up on it, that'll convince me.
By the way, who gets buried in a swamp... and why would they want to?

Plus, if the JT has a child self, didn't anyone ever bother to look him up, JT would still be under the same name, just as a 6 year old kid. Seems pretty simple.

EDIT: After a closer look, I saw that the only Titors listed in the country are in CT, IL, and one in NY. My guess is that someone from CT wouldn't be buried in Florida. Assuming that's the one, and the guy didn't just steal someone's name... and assuming that said person was dumb enough to only change their first name to 'disguide themselves.'

http://whitepages.com/search/Find_Person?firstname_begins_with=1&name_begins_with=0&firstname=&name=Titor&city_zip=&state_id=
 
Mar 21, 2004
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TheSadOne: You bring up some valid points that I will address.
1) I am not TimeTravel_0 that was John and he will always remain TimeTravel_0 also knowing John he would want his legacy to continue if he wasn't truely dead.
2) Please I beg for you to come to our timeline and attend the funeral.
3) As John stated earlier Titor is not his true last name. Johns familey has left Florida in this timeline and moved to an undiclosed location.
4) In the future the Everglades was completely dried up and thus turned into an enourmous graveyard. Any other questions?
 

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Yeah, I'd love to go to the funeral, one small problem, no time machine...

You give me an email, and I'll give you a time and place to meet, I'm not afraid of wackos with knives. Or better yet, I'll give you my email and you can Email me where we can meet, since you obviously have a working time machine, it wouldn't really matter when we leave right? Because we could always just go to the day of the funeral, then right back (pretty much). Right?

My email is Cwodi@aol.com or TheSadOne2k@hotmail.com
I look foreward to your answer.
 

TheSadOne

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Well that's a cop-out answer if I ever heard one.
So far you have given no real 'proof' ... I don't know who you are, any number of wackos, or maybe you're actually telling the truth... But according to religion the Messiah is coming in just a few years, if you believe in that... so it's really one or the other. I'm waiting for them to fight it off, Jesus vs. nuclear holocaust.

Back on subject, Yeah, Maybe you're for real, maybe not... probably the latter, but you see, you offer no proof as to what you claim, isn't there anything you can bring?
 

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From another topic on this board, posted by Cherno, under "Titor- a druggy?" there was this link to this board that a John Titor is apparently posting to, and he was posting the same thing he posted in 2000/2001. The dates for his posts are December 2003-January 2004.

It sounds EXACTLY like him, and he is talking about the same things.

He did not post as a "druggy", but he was posting to this UK Cannabis/marijuana discussion board, apparently drawn to it because he found a reference to John Titor on that board in 2006? Then went back to 2003/2004 to post on it??

Here is the link.. http://www.ukcultivator.biz/member.php?u=642 . Click on the "Find all posts by John Titor" link to read what he wrote. He suggests the civil disturbances starting with events in April and August of 2004. [Does April refer to the "April 29th is a day to remember" from his 2000/2001 posts?]

Do you have any comment on this? He was in this timeline very recently, and now he's dead? What is he dead from?

When the question about 9/11 was asked, I presumed it fell under the "will not disclose earthquake/bomb information" category. But you say it never happened on your worldline? Then for what crimes were people held "without due process" for? We've already had this happen on our worldline after the events of 9/11.
 

TheSadOne

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Good point Tyson, which is why I origonally thought they were the same person, and he was trying to put an end to it, psychologically they're reeeal similar, but it's late, he said it's not him, so I'm not gonna put up a fight. Let him be whoever he wants to be.

If it is in fact that he's lying... ooo, mysterious.
 

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Oh for the love of Gaia...here we go again! :mad:

Again believe me or not. Just wait you'll see soon enough just wait till the civil war. It has already begun.
1) I'll choose the "not" answer, if that is alright by you, my wonderous time-traveling friend.
2) I can see, from your second sentence and other posts of yours, that diction, grammar, and proper punctuation are still not being enforced in the schools. Guess George Bush's "no child left behind" must have missed you!
3) It has NOT already begun, nor will it begin. Apparantly, your handlers sent you to the wrong timeline! You see, *I* am the only person in this timeline who knows the "true" secret to time travel. Inasmuch as I am trying to educate these people in the PROPER way, to avoid such polluted timelines that can give way to civil wars, I'd appreciate it if you would just shut the hell up, stop polluting a timeline that I was sent here to save, and go find a video game forum to spew your claptrap on!

Sincere Regards,
RainmanTime
 

TysonM

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I asked my questions in an honest attempt at communication.

If you are not going to answer them, what topics would you like to talk about? Do you have anything you'd like to say?
 

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TT_0:
I belive you, i dont know why but i belive you, but i think the other guys need a real clue for belive you, so, i think you can take a photo of your clothes and post it, or your credencial, because if you work for the goberment, you need to had a credential of the gob in the future, and of curse you need to have clothes from the future, or you travel nude?
And what about the social system in the future, its so like socialism, only there one thing wrong, on socialism theres no religion, so please tell me, in the future the church stop to steal money, and manipulate people, or how works the structure of the church in the future?

I had just another question, what happen in the future whit mexico and the latinamericans.

Atte: a fan of you, TT_1.

eeerr.............well look here. One of your first post. I guess your not from the future. lol... YOU are a FAN OF TT_0............ahahah
 

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Hi TysonM:

I asked my questions in an honest attempt at communication.

If you are not going to answer them, what topics would you like to talk about? Do you have anything you'd like to say?
I don't believe I was addressing you at all. And if you were asking me to answer your questions, I don't believe I can, as I don't really care about John Titor or the people/person that ran this experiment.

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 

Keven

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how about this, one of us goes out and gets a tatto of the exact place that titor will be burried and then goes there when the time is right, then comes back in time to tell us about it? And since i'm the youngest and will for surely live to see 2036, assumeing i'm not killed in the war i'll be the likly choice, but I don't want a tatto so some one else do it ;)
 

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I tried reading some of the posts listed above but found them all severely redundant!!

The main question here is 'why' was this supposed time traveller unable to answer some simple questions relating to our immediate future?
I am aware of the 'Butterfly Effect' and that changing history even in the slightest could cause an even bigger catastrophe then this Nuclear semi distinction in 2015, but did titor even mention this as a reason for his silence? Not any where that I can find! Offcourse I am only new to this web site and the theory of time travel so I may be proven wrong there.

I want to believe in time travel but at the same time I refuse to be sucked in to some attention seeking freaks attempt to engross me in some sort of 'over the top' fiction story!
I'm sure you have all seen the evidence that proves Titor's 'Time Machine' to be an un-extraordinary machine built some time in the 1960's.

It frustrates me to become engrossed in something (Or someone) who seems to be the real thing only to find out that I may as well be watching ET without the knowledge that it is fiction.
 

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It frustrates me to become engrossed in something (Or someone) who seems to be the real thing only to find out that I may as well be watching ET without the knowledge that it is fiction.
You have just described the single, biggest problem associated with the "wild and wooly" internet: Verification and Validation of information content! This is a particularly "nasty" problem when it comes to:

a) "Independent" news sources.
b) Conspiracy Theory websites.
c) New Age/Pseudoscience outlets.

If you ask me, the "trustworthy computing" moniker coined by Bill Gates should also include some forward thinking means to introduce TRACEABILITY into the massive information streams available through the internet.

No one benefits by mass confusion....except those whose purpose it is to confuse! Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 

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What do you al think about this new development of Isreal swearing revenge for the assination? Didn't titor say somthing about Isreal?
 
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If you would do some simple thinking you would realize that this person calling himself TimeTravel_1 has never traveled in time. Indeed, the person who represented himself as John Titor was not the actual John Titor. Whoever it was had some genuine equipment but also clearly had never traveled in time.

It is all quite simple to see if one thinks clearly for even only a moment or two.
 

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Well I guess when there is no civil war you'll just chaulk it up with a statement saying, "Well, um...um, there was one in our timeline, but due to the fact of 9/11, which started the Patriot Act, this prevented the civil war from ever occurring."

And I'm sorry, but the Everglades have been swamps for eons, I doubt they'll dry up in 30 more years.

I've thought of another way to validate your claim. Post some pics of your time machine, not just copy and paste from JT. And you can't make the excuse you're not allowed to. If JT was allowed to do it, so can you.
 
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Sir or Madam Keven,


I apologize most profusely for my akward use of your English. No, that is not what I meant to say.


There is some doubts and uncertainty surrounding the postings of John Titor due to their omissions and inclusions. It is understood that an early time traveller of a very similar name did exist. It is considered the truth that he suffered in some sort of mechanical malfunction while in transit. it is generally considered that he landed in your time badly injured and imparted some scant information to a contemporary of your time (and for that he is heavily reviled for having not a professional bearing and manner rather he acted with cowardice).


It is thought that the contemporary of your time is the person who posted under John's name. His motives are not understood. The equipment pictures and manuals and shreds of the information regarding the mechanism are accurate. Yet most of what was posted was preposterous. The details of the mechanism being in a car is laughable to even a child as you will see if you consider it. Also, and most important, a fundamental and most important detail of his flight methods was contradicted. It is as bad an error as if you went to the past and told peoples that in your time men flew not in airplanes, but by flapping their arms like the birds and insects do.


Of course it is obvious to us in the porch of the future to see, but even a person of simple perception in your day should also see, that all of his claims of the futures path are fiction. As Sir or Madam Hello just pointed out, it does not take profound and unique vision to notice his civil war is not occuring. Nor will there be atomic bombing in the near future, nor will 60 years hence there be farmers building time machines in their barns when the crops are tended to and grown.
 

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Hey Rainman..

I meant to reply to TT1. I'm more used to other forums where reply is a general reply, and not to the name of the person you clicked "Reply" to.. so it was directed at TT1, not you. Sorry about that.
 

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More than likely, now an altered timeline?

I'm sorry, there is a little problem posted here and this does have to do with the phenomenon known as paralexism.

This is where a person gets a double view of an event of view that is happening, due to double phased optics.

There is a law in time travel, that once your knowingly violate the break silence rule, then you have totally adultutered that particular timeline.

Now there is the inherent possaasbily that if this John Titor exist, that the timeline that he is, or has been in, is now greatly altered.

In Anomalies.net, there have been past reports of large signs seeming to appear on streets, where the night before, there have been no large advertising signs and the individual noting this, was of good repute.

Titor may have gone section eight, if the width and breadth of what he knew, was too much mentally for him to hold?

In other-words., what this Titor fellow may have on purposely done, was to make a cannonball splash effect, on purpose, within the use of his projected timelines, in order to avert some events from happening.

Pam Moore had said, that in Titor's passion of telling her of his losses, that the loss of one particular member, was so great, that he had developed an arcane personality trait.

I can't, this is beyond me, to now project what the proper train of events will come, out of Titor breaking his silence with regards to time travel protocols.
 

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....?

Just a general question.....Has anyone taken the time to consider the fact that we are all talking from an egocentric point of view?
It would appear that noone in this forum is willing to sit back and really take in anyone elses opinion. We are all so obsessed with our own views on this subject (and I predict many other topics) that this forum seems to be more of a 'Who can top my theory?'site..... which can last forever because given enough time everyone can find a new angle to someone's point of view.

Just a thought! =)
 

RainmanTime

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Re: More than likely, now an altered timeline?

Creedo,

You are way, WAY, W A Y too fixated on the John Titor Project/Experiment! As with other "fringe" topics that you talk about, I don't see near enough evidence that would cause a relatively sane, critically-thinking person to entertain it as fact. While I am not a mental health expert, I have read that such deep immersion in such fanciful topics (regarding them as if they were true) can often erode one's ability to distinguish reality from fantasy in other areas of life.

Just a thought for you to consider. You have exhibited a capacity for understanding complex topics in science, and it troubles me to see such a capacity potentially subjugated by stories with little chance of being based in reality. I would think that you could be a LOT more effective than you currently are if you would exericse a little discretion and compartmentalization in how you mix established facts with things that "may be true".

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 

creedo299

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Re:History note

On Rainman's offer:No I don't see a large floor infront of me, with people working on aerospace airframes.

I don't see any of the new electric rocket engines, hanging from moveable cranes from the ceiling, waiting to be lowered into their boss holdance, within the aft propulsion section, of a newer stile of advanced aeroframe.

I also do not have an allowance ticket for sectional colonization offered for Mars, as only a honorary courtesy, even though Mars colonization, is not my direction.

>The topic of conversation was time travel theory.

The agreed was always, that Titor could have been in the states of not existing and existing.

So what is posted here is theory.
 

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Re:History note

On Rainman's group:Temporary post.

To me, Rainman's aerospace group, represents an interim group, in power after the loss of the shuttle and newly developed space vehicles.

These are new proposed hyper velocity aeroframes, which use integral methods, of pumped out refrigeration and or fuels, to the exterior surfaces of these craft.This design feature to afford reentry profiles, either without absorption or ablative actions on the outer surfaces of these airframes during any proposed reentry.

I do not know what the overall plan for near space exploration is, as no'one has mailed a circular to my P.O. box, on current NASA aims.

I have come out, since the next proposed step in near exploration would be other moons and planets, that a required course, be given on all extraterrestrial life forms, known suspected so far.

I have received a chiding for this offer or required course materials, even though the Steven Greer disclosure has been already made and is very publicized.

To me, I certainly wish RainmanTime well and hope that he goes for his intensive astronaut, or mission specialist training.

I think with his level of tenacity, that he would make a fine mission specialist or astronaut, if he chose to commit to course work action.

This means, you study very, very, hard and say to yourself, "They're going to have to carry me out of here, cause I'm not going to flunk out in my training".

I would also caution that if meetings are made with E.T.s in the time being, due to near exploration modes of near space travel, certainly have the required seven books read, on what is know on E.T. life forms, which are considered unusual information by the hierarchy.

This knowledge, so that a simple meeting does not digress to any sort of conflagration between crews of any near space vehicle and vested astronaut, mission speacialts.


My hopes for Ray is that he chooses this course and applies himself thoroughly.